2016 August


Anyone watching?

Brazil is an amazing country and wonderful example of all of the BRICS, and how cultural evolution–done too quickly–can lack the density and frequency required to hold under load.

I was watching the cycling (150 miles!) race and thinking about all the natural resources in Brazil with almost 9 million sqm and 200 million people with almost every sqm bathed in tropical weather!

Yet underneath it’s collapsing on itself. I heard it took until 2007 for Canada to pay off the 1976 olympics and it will require decades for Brazil to recover their investment in the “games” imagine that with everything else going on!

Here is something, perhaps I alone believe…that in strife, a culture regresses back to the density and frequency that will support the load, which is normally cascading the system into an overshoot position.

I’m still convinced we must regress ourselves back to (circling back) law and order and increase the density and frequency of DQ-BLUE before its challenges and we overshoot past DQ-BLUE into opportunism.

Let me show you an example:

(BARANGUY = Town or Municipal)

You Know Last Friday Have A Woman Shoot Out And Died Here In My Place But No People Seen That Crime Only Hear The Gun Sound

All Place In Cavite Have A Curfew. But Still Have A People Not Scared To Do Crime Or Stealling Here In Cavite

Yes But Here In My Place You Can’t Believe Barangay Here Was Scared To Walking Or Finding Whose People Doing That Crime. And Sometimes Barangay Will Resign Cos Of Scared To Going Dead That Cos Barangay Here Not So Much They Will Count It By Hand

Elected officials even with the right to govern, can’t govern because the social fabric is not strong enough–which is why you get a Duterte elected, but he’s not able to command (govern) because there are too many small towns that can’t get help from criminals who control the night!

The conversation came up because a roof was partially destroyed by people running across the roofs at night terrorizing people…and of course leaving them wet and cold as a result of rain.

While you think this can’t happen to us, it can and is in more parts of the USA than one can think!

We really on the social fabric to support the weight of law and order, rather than the presence of law and order as a protective system which is relied on to keep the regression from becoming widespread, but it can’t.

We have such conventional opportunities to change things right now from progression that assumes “everyone will and wants” to behave–ignoring the pugnacity of man…this ties back into why FS-GREEN as a short system, because the assumption is that people are rational behavers…!

I proposed a plan I labeled as “intoracy” more than a decade ago which stratified the amount of law order across the system from FORCE to SUPPORT based on the conditions, all driven from a system that provides training in 8 levels of behavior required for the conditions, I called this a “civilary” which could solve the problem with youth unemployment because they could be deployed in large numbers once entering the training through levels.

The elite could fund this program rather than giving everyone free college:(

This scaffolding could produce the “patches” we need to apply to upgrade the social fabric.

The question in my mind is we can’t trust our government to implement this symmetrically asymmetrical;)


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Thought provoking piece mike. Thanks.

Some thoughts in response.

I just don’t see much evidence that there is a large contingent in the US of people believing that “everyone will and wants to behave.” Not a whole lot of pugnacity going on as far as I can tell.

For example, I live in one of the most liberal neighborhoods in one of the most liberal cities in the US. In theory, where you’d find FS-Green if anywhere. Other than a fairly liberal policy on use of pot a few decades ahead of everyone else, this citizenry expects everyone to follow the rules/laws, and if those rules/laws are not followed then they expect the law to crack down fiercely. For the crime environment we live in, we have an extraordinary abundance of police capacity to respond to anything that arises. There ain’t much pugnacity on display here. People generally stay in the neighborhoods they are “suppose” to stay in. In a citizenry that publicly values heterogeneity as much as any other City in the US, the rules on the ground enforce radical homogeneity.

The City even comes around every year to see if all the wood on your house is painted as one example of a thousand. No “paper tiger” laws here, where the laws are strong but there is no funding for enforcement. Enforcement is funded.

There is also no “live and let live” ethos here in any form that you would see in say rural Montana or Wyoming, where one would consider DQ-Blue to have primacy. I’d speculate that in those environments “law and order” means, among other things, maintaining coherent group identity and defending boundaries from outsiders.

The state in which I live (Wisconsin), is also “best” in the country in convicting and locking up young black men. We are clearly testing the extreme boundaries (“best” in the US means “best” in the world) of how far you can take creating lots and lots of ex-felons that eventually get dumped off a bus (literally) back on the streets with nothing but a card board box of their belongings and little capacity to get a job. In our city, it happens downtown across from the state capitol building.

So a crap load of law and order (DQ-Blue density) alive and well. The places where it is not present is where enforcement capacity cannot be funded to the extent in needs to be and the fabric of organizational infrastructure (churches, banks, non profits, volunteer groups, schools, etc) is not robust enough to address issues as they arise (e.g. Detroit, Chicago).

Really curious what you would see as needing to be regressed, or even what could be regressed? What would need to change to regress? Or why regression is the solution to the situations in Detroit or Chicago for example?

I had some other thoughts on this piece (more to your point of social fabric) but continue to not understand what you are seeing as a surge of FS-Green. I just see lots of DQ-Blue in a different coat. Can you give three or four concrete examples of what you see as actual FS-Green value structures that are getting codified in societal structures?

These are not criticisms, just curious to explore how we are seeing the world so differently.

Thanks for this.

I just don’t see much evidence that there is a large contingent in the US of people believing that “everyone will and wants to behave.” Not a whole lot of pugnacity going on as far as I can tell.

You described a pretty large contingent just now I think of everyone will and wants to behave arising out of DQ-BLUE, smoking marijuana happens to be an odd life choice, not a liberal way of living;), otherwise we would see those that are still smoking a pack of sigs a day as liberal–which they might be, or those who drink Belgium beer, hehe.

It also seems that you described–pretty much–a sealed environment, where if anyone did enter, they would be assimilated, which does, in my view, make my case for law and order density and frequency, as you described it well, so maybe we are both victims of generalization;)

Let me think about the examples you want, I think I have supplied them over time, but I’ll be more specific to your question because like you, I’m just looking out of my own keyhole.

I do think I’m over sensitive to pugnacity you say isn’t around because of what I described before that it no longer takes a majority, even a minority, but only one person trying to light his shoes causing a dramatic shift in freedom.

I think you’re right about most areas being dense and durable enough in the USA (I described one in my note far away from Wisconsin as a counter example) to ward off present threats to stability, but one example which is concrete is the influx of immigrants during a recession (under FS-GREEN rules(?) starting to reverse the long term crime trends that in the run-up to FS-GREEN maybe starting to turn.

It’s one example of how “everyone will and wants” is shifting fundamentals, and grant you it’s too early to make a judgment about overall trends. I’ve always benefited from being pretty far out front of things on the ground and what troubles me are signs that we either regress ahead or be regressed because in general we are depending on a social fabric which wears increasingly thin–in terms of trend–so while things might seem they are moving in the right direction, I’m not one who would agree, for those reasons I’ve sprinkled throughout my posts.

The “things” I’m struggling with are the economics of “things” rather than an Internet of things, although there is likely to be a connection–which a “Google-like” will seek to exploit.

What I mean is the economics of FS-Green troubles me as part of the EWEW (everyone will, everyone wants…) ideas as affiliation doesn’t automatically produce the ground for the figure of sustainability.

I’m maybe mixing apples and oranges but from what I can see from my keyhole, there a lot of troubling signs as a result of the emergence of FS-GREEN (power) thus far related to the economics of things which loads the social fabric over time.

I feel like chicken little (or a little chicken;) at times, both before and after, suggesting that what is occurring even interests anyone vs. providing thoughts that may prove helpful;)

I also realize, that while one splashes and thrashes, it matters less and less in the overall “game of things.”

In the back of my mind, I keep trying to think that this discussion will evolve among us to produce some worthy guidelines for those that could benefit.

And your challenge is helpful for me to look at what I’m thinking and why, so drilling down into some of that helps my mental models become more dense and durable–or at least to see if they are durable from my values or applicable to a broader perspective.

So I’ll get back to you on concrete and hope that all of you will keep pushing on our string;)


Just to clarify, there is little to no assimilation occurring in these neighborhoods. You do not live in these neighborhoods if you are not of the “faith” so most do not need assimilation. Just try to fertilize your lawn and you will see how complete the belief structure is contained/maintained. Or put a Trump sign on your lawn and it will literally be gone in 30 minutes. These are where the hippies went after they grew up. And you pay to live here. Very expensive beat up looking houses. This is no different than if you showed up at a Southern Baptist church and proclaimed your strong pro-choice position or that you believed there were many paths to God. I am sure you would be treated respectfully for a bit, but after just a short while you would be effectively contained/ostracized. You would NOT be assimilated. This is all common/normal human behavior. We orient identity mostly to groups.

Most neighborhoods in the US are not diverse. We live with our “tribe” if we can and try to assert our values on those that enter via home purchase or lease. Fascinating to talk with my black friends in town who live in overwhelmingly white suburban neighborhoods. My black friends probably do 2x the yard work that anyone else does because they feel the pressure/stigma associated with their presence, so over compensate. And they are VERY conscious of it, never have junk in their driveway or lawn, weeds in their gardens, etc. They describe it as a relentless pressure. Oppressive in spite of being “welcomed” by others. There aren’t very many of them so that helps to keep things low key. Lots of economic/sociological research on tipping points in neighborhoods that cause “white flight.”


Re: the economics of Green, it is interesting to me watch this on the ground. Most social movement happens when Green and a subset of Orange get together into a coalition. You must have broadbased coalitions to move legislation like this. Obamacare was a product of this temporary union for example. It creates strange bedfellows and usually structures that make little to no sense. Most of the difficult / unworkable structures in the law was due to trying to accommodate enough business interests to get the legislation passed, in this case healthcare and insurance companies. But had green value basin been in charge you would have seen a dramatically different approach. Likely a single payer system. WAY less complicated and probably less costly BUT you would have wiped out an entire industry (insurance companies) so that wasn’t going to happen.

Most neighborhoods in the US are not diverse. We live with our “tribe” if we can and try to assert our values on those that enter via home purchase or lease

This is one of the themes of HBO’s Show Me a Hero which I think does a good job of not demonizing everyone who does not want their neighbourhood integrated.

Jim – do you see any chance of “keeping up appearances” moving to the core of group identity (as described in the attached)?

“Brazil is an amazing country and wonderful example of all of the BRICS, and how cultural evolution–done too quickly–can lack the density and frequency required to hold under load.”

A few observations and reactions from the time I spent in Brazil in the early 1990s.

At the time, I had never heard of DQ-Blue, but looking back, one of the most striking differences between US and Brazil was the low prevalence of a law & order mindset. For example, there was police presence on roads but they enforced nothing. People ran street lights as a matter of course. The way to get things done was to use back-channels rather than official channels. Another example, as the family member still residing in the US, I came down with a box full of Christmas presents. That box failed to show up in baggage claim. My father engaged a local to “fix” the problem and lo and behold the box showed up with everything still in it. I doubt he asked how it was solved, plausible deniability. People done even queue in Brazil when there’s a lot of people waiting for something. Ignoring international copyright and trademark rules was boldly broad practice. Rules and order seemed to be treated as mild suggestions, but not the primary method for making one’s way.

Based on my cursory understanding to SGD, this looks like under-developed DQ-Blue. I don’t know how much has changed in the last 25 years. The load on the system that comes from large multi-national events like the World Cup and the Olympics is substantial. Last year, I spoke to some Brazilian colleagues and they told me about the dismay and fear many Brazilians have for the sacrifices made to ‘afford’ these events. They are also proud of hosting at the same time. It’s just that the social and cultural infrastructure exacts a heavy tax on those that can least afford it in order to pull these events off.

Brazil is a beautiful country. I love it, the people, and the language. For all the challenges, they seem in a much better place than Venezuela, the next country my parents moved after Brazil.


Mike, I remember this-probably stll have info. Maybe the time wasn’t right for “intoracy” before and publishing in various venues now ie LinkedIn Pulse, Heritage ?? would generate more diverse discussion. Lori

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